TS Module 3: Trends HW


TS Module 3: Trends HW

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RayDHIII
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We are given in the assignment that Var(et) = 1.  (I assume this means for all t, please correct me if I'm wrong.)  This means that Var(et-1) = 1 as well.  Thus:

Var(Yt) = Var(mu + et + et-1) = Var(mu) + Var(et) + Var(et-1).

I simplified (perhaps too quickly) to 2Var(et) because Var(et) = Var(et-1).  Let me know if you have further questions.

RDH


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I understood all of raydhiii's post until:

 = 0 + 2Var(et) due to indepence of the e's.

and then I was lost as to where the 2Var(et) came from exactly. Any help?

Thanks!


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If I am not mistaken, you are using the correct equation, just not using it correctly.  You wrote

(gamma0 / n) = 1/50

 as the first part of equation 3.2.3.  My understanding (from 2.2.5 and 2.3.2) is that gamma0 is the autocovariance function of zero lag, which is

Cov(Yt,Yt-0) = Var(Yt) = Var(mu + et + et-1) = Var(mu) + Var(et) + Var(et-1)

 = 0 + 2Var(et) due to indepence of the e's.

Hopefully this solves your missing 2.  Please comment on any of my misunderstandings or misconceptions.

RDH


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Dude! I was just using the upper version and ignoring that k can be -1 and 1 (and have pk be non-zero).

I agree with you. I think I'm missing a factor of 2. Thanks!
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The equation is from the book (3.2.3).

Am I using the wrong equation?



thanks for your time and patience ^^
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I don't have my hw in front of me but I got .0792 too. Where is the 2 coming from?
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Mr. McNamara III,

The answer for A1, using the 3.2.3, should be .0396.
Var(Y-bar) = (1/50)*(1+2(1-1/50)*.5) = 0.0396.
Perhaps you misplaced a factor of 2 somewhere?

Tell me if I am wrong anyone.

thanks for your time and patience ^^
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For part B, what does "pattern" mean? Are we supposed to graph a few of these?

Without doing any graphing, it seems like it depends heavily on the distribution of the e's what the random walks would look like. If e is always positive there will be a clear difference, but if e is 1 half the time and -1 the other half I think the first Y and last Y would behave the same.

[NEAS: For Part B: If Y(j) is higher than average, do you expect Y(j+1) to be higher or lower than average?]
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1st of all p1 for an MA(1) process is not 1.  It can never be one. 

p1 for an MA(1) process is -θ/(1+θ2) which is always between -.5 and.5.

For A1 θ = -1.  θ is always to opposite sign of what is in front of the ei terms.  I know this not from this module three, but from future modules.  I have learned a few parts of this course puts the chicken before the egg unfortunately.  So for A1, Yt = mu +et - θet-1,  θ = -1, to make itYt = mu +et + 1et-1

So p1 = -(-1)/(1+(-1)2) = .5  I do not know why you say p1 = 1.  p0 = 1 but not p1. 

To adhere to module 3 methods you'd have to find the Cov(Yt,Yt-1) and the Var(Yt) = Var(Yt-1). This is the long way though to get p1 = Cov(Yt,Yt-1)/(sqrt(Var(Yt)xVar(Yt-1))

Equation (3.2.3) will yield the correct answer (I think, remember none of us has the solution) of .0792 for the Var(Ybar).

 



Tom McNamara III
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Well, the HW can be done from a direct application of equation 3.2.3 which is from chapter 3. By this point in the module, deriving pk is not hard. Or if you're algebraically minded, you can avoid the equation and do some simplification.

[NEAS: Cryer and Chan show the intution from first principles in the early chapters before giving formulas. Many homework assignments that seem complex at first are easy after you have completed the course. The homework asks for the relative values in these time series, which relies on the intuition in this module. Many concepts are difficult at first but become clear as you work through the modules.]


 
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